Curse

Ekelon · Mar 29, 2008, 05:17 PM // 17:17

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Originally Posted by elsquid

This is something I been noticing recently for me. I've just gotten back into guildwars after a stopping for a while. I picked up eye of the north and I've been playing through it with my main character (a ranger who's gone through all 3 campaigns).

Now, I used to rotate back and forth between a few characters I have, just to mix things up. But now, with the hall of monuments, I suddenly feel like I shouldn't be playing as the rest of them, Like i should be sticking with my 1 character and getting all the awards for the sake of Guild Wars 2.

Is that just crazy? should I snap out of it and just play my other characters, or am i right, that theirs little motivation to play more the one?

I guess you could say it's there to help motivate you to finish the campaign on a single character.

t00115577 · Mar 29, 2008, 05:21 PM // 17:21

Im only getting titles for HoM on my main, wanna have leather books, or maybe rich mahogony by the time GW2 comes out.
Again, its optional, if you dont wanna have a leg up in GW2, dont bother grinding titles, there will defo be some advantage even if its not named yet.

Takeko Nakano · Mar 29, 2008, 05:26 PM // 17:26

I think the HoM is generally disappointing. You can't show it off to your friends, and you can only put Destroyers weapons on display.

Fay Vert · Mar 29, 2008, 05:34 PM // 17:34

Its the realisation that Guild Wars has now become Grind Wars.

Shuuda · Mar 29, 2008, 05:38 PM // 17:38

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Originally Posted by Fay Vert

Its the realisation that Guild Wars has now become Grind Wars.

Only if your a bad player who feels the need to do things like that. It's been said here already HoM is lame, and not worth anyone's time.

Pan Head · Mar 29, 2008, 05:51 PM // 17:51

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Originally Posted by Takeko Nakano

I think the HoM is generally disappointing. You can't show it off to your friends, and you can only put Destroyers weapons on display.

you can show off to your friends. Put them in your party and take them in.

Only destroyer weapons was a let down.

**cosyfiep** · Mar 29, 2008, 05:53 PM // 17:53

discouraging, yes, I would agree....back in prophecies days all you needed for new armor was to get to the city!

disappointing, most definitely!! Eye has been the most hyped thing and for nothing.....I have lots of characters I like to play (16) and most of them have worked thru chapters 1, 2 and are still finishing 3---however, the ones that dont want armor WONT be finishing eye---its NOT worth it, and even the armor really isnt worth it either.....so very disappointing. (some of my characters see no reason to even venture there--except to get the new skills).

HoM ---dont really care about it, gw2 there is only a tiny, slim chance that I will buy it (and the magic eight ball right now is betting against it).

so OP, totally agree.

Zinger314 · Mar 29, 2008, 06:02 PM // 18:02

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Originally Posted by Shuuda

Only if your a bad player who feels the need to do things like that. It's been said here already HoM is lame, and not worth anyone's time.

HoM is only a part of it.

Reputation title tracks are what GW:EN introduced as "end-game" content.

I'm not sure if I'd play GW:EN even if I got it for free.

MithranArkanere · Mar 29, 2008, 06:09 PM // 18:09

It's not crazy.

Too many people feel the same.
I used to play with all my 10 characters, 1 of each profession.

Now:
- I cannot open chests with any other character than my main, or treasure hunter is 'spread'.
- I cannot ID golds with any other character than my main, or wisdom is 'spread'.
- If I get a miniature, only my main will dedicate it, or it would get spread.
- I cannot party, drink or eat with any other character than my main character.
And overall I feel like wasting time while I'm playing for getting anything else but account-wide titles with other character than my main one.

Where's the problem?
- Grind titles. All titles that are increased by accumulating points instead of making single and separate achievements. Just like PvP titles, they should be account wide. For plot-related grind titles (reputation and promotion) they should at least require less points to max the more characters have maxed them.
- The Devotion monument should be account based. No one gets miniatures for a character, it's not like armors or heroes or anything else. Everyone gets miniatures for the account.

PvE should have been like PvP, getting things unlocked and done account wide.

1 account -> 1 player. Accounts cannot be shared, so there's no reason to keep character achievements separated.
Yeah, it¡'s not the same to play as a monk than as an assassin, but in PvP you'll get the points account wide regardless of profession.

I'm not purchasing more slots to use them as mules. I want to play with all of them, but If I do so, I'll get left out compared to those that stick to a single slot.

Shuuda · Mar 29, 2008, 06:15 PM // 18:15

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

HoM is only a part of it.

Reputation title tracks are what GW:EN introduced as "end-game" content.

I'm not sure if I'd play GW:EN even if I got it for free.

Those are only grind to the stupid, if you have a brain and use the books. Easy since r5 is all you need (anything beyond that is silly title crap) Not that you even need them armors, weapons or titles.

Malice Black · Mar 29, 2008, 06:15 PM // 18:15

It's perfectly acceptable if you don't take the game too seriously.

romeus petrus · Mar 29, 2008, 06:19 PM // 18:19

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Originally Posted by mscobra

EotN + grind = boring poorly done expansion

QFT

GWEN was pretty much the strongest proof to date that the game has turned into a grind fest.

I know of a lot of people who have been very dedicated to GW since its release, who simply quit the game all together less than one month after the release of GWEN.

GWEN = huge dissappointment

Aera Lure · Mar 29, 2008, 06:26 PM // 18:26

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Originally Posted by elsquid

... But now, with the hall of monuments, I suddenly feel like I shouldn't be playing as the rest of them, Like i should be sticking with my 1 character and getting all the awards for the sake of Guild Wars 2.

Is that just crazy?

No, its perfectly normal. I quit GW once specifically due to titles. I then came back and played a single character pretty much only for titles, and that position was reinforced by the HoM. I simply could not justify the time investment into multiple characters to be played anymore. As it was, given the nature of titles in GW, it was often hard to justify the time for the titles for even just one character. I decided just to use them as a guide for what to do next, what to go play next, not letting the titles themselves become the goal, though I had a lot of fun completing a number of them.

The rewards? Its not recommended, at least not by me, to play specifically for the rewards, given that we dont know what they are and the fact that they are all but surely to be cosmetic.

N1ghtstalker · Mar 29, 2008, 06:29 PM // 18:29

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Originally Posted by mscobra

EotN + grind = boring poorly done expansion

² that
even the storyline is poorly made and boring to do
and HM drops from dungeons are most of the time worthless crap

aapo · Mar 29, 2008, 06:31 PM // 18:31

I'm kind of surprised how many people actually give a shit about HoM.

"Oh no, I can't play anything besides my main, I need to get Big Deal title track"
- For what exactly? Those things are common as dirt and don't impress anyone anymore. Why are you limiting your enjoyment of the game because of some stupid title? Poor repetition value is a valid argument for not starting new character, titles are not.

And 10 bucks says HoM benefits will be something like bonus skin weapons or glowy hands. If you're even buying GW2...

cebalrai · Mar 29, 2008, 06:34 PM // 18:34

I don't care about it at all.... I go to my HoM about once every 3 months.

Loviatar · Mar 29, 2008, 06:44 PM // 18:44

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Originally Posted by DarkWasp

It's not the HoM that is discouraging, its their silence.

WHY DONT THEY JUST TELL US? Whether or not filling just one HoM reaps the most profit, we have no clue.

news alert you missed it entirely.

MIKE O BRION/JEFF STRAIN/THE WHOLD DEV TEAM MADE O FLAT STATEMENT.

one unlocked item per HOM item so people who could afford full monuments would have no advantage period.........destroyer weps only a clue?

no wealth transfer in any form including unique HOM minis which would be a fortune IF you were able to sell them which you cant.

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these unique items/minis/etc will ONLY BE AVAILABLE FROM THE HOM
you cant buy/sell/trade them to get ahead.

very good business not to create an instant elite class to kick off the game.

as stated every player will start equal and what you get will be cosmetic and have no effect on gameplay.

DIVINE AURA HAS NO EFFECT BUT IS IT DESIRABLE?

play to have fun not try to be an instant elite looking down at the new players

credit · Mar 29, 2008, 06:55 PM // 18:55

eotn = free armor

Buster · Mar 29, 2008, 07:01 PM // 19:01

Well thanks to the people who whined about putting countless hours into GW and not having anything to show for it in GW2 we got HOM. People just need to realize that games are games and eventually all characters along with their achievements go to character heaven.

Fay Vert · Mar 29, 2008, 07:04 PM // 19:04

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Originally Posted by Shuuda

Only if your a bad player who feels the need to do things like that. It's been said here already HoM is lame, and not worth anyone's time.

How does the grind added to GW = you being a bad player?

HoM aside, EotN added:

Rep point grind
Vanquish grind
HM dungeon grind
Core Grind
Char carving grind
Glacial grind
Chalices grind
Bison grind
Rin Relic grind
Polymock (lag) grind

Thats a heck of a lot of grind for an expansion, and not releated to HoM. Sure they are all optional, though some of them give in-game advantages, so they are about as optional as any character pregression activity. But this is what EotN is about, the storyline/quests are short and quick to complete, so what is left is the grind.

Stating that grind is due to being a bad player is either odd or a silly veiled insult to someone you disagree with.